https://www.lockwiki.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Category_talk%3ASurreptitious_EntryCategory talk:Surreptitious Entry - Revision history2026-05-11T18:52:41ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.38.5https://www.lockwiki.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Surreptitious_Entry&diff=1609&oldid=prevDatagram at 06:15, 13 January 20092009-01-13T06:15:08Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Mcm,<br><br />
I think we should remove the 'examples of' portion, because this is a category page, not an article. I put this page here until we have a dedicated S.E. page, so just the definition is fine; once articles get added they will show below and people can find their own examples. Alternatively, we can have a short list on a main S.E. page, should one be created, similar to how general lockpicking/destructive entry techniques are mentioned on their respective pages.<br />
<br>I'd also like to modify the definition to remove "or otherwise" because this is a bit all encompassing, and if something was stolen it technically is in defiance of "or otherwise." The main idea is that surreptitious is a step up from covert because it cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was actually used, unless tools/etc can be linked to someone. It doesn't necessarily mean that there is no evidence, just that it would not be discernable to a qualified investigator.<br />
<br>-dg, 01.12.09</div>Datagram